Thank you for your kind review and your recommendations. We appreciate clients like yourself who are experiencing the real deal. Yes, we are different, and we are proud of that. We encounter a lot of individuals who are not understanding what we are about and it is so wonderful to us when we see clients not just believing in us but also describing their experiences with us. Thank you, Mari!!!
And in fact at first glance from outside you would not think this was a good place in fact I used to live walking distance from there and hadn't been for years finally a friend told me about them so I gave them a try first off with Crystal she is a very good massage unfortunately she no longer works at this location so then I went to you having massages with Sonya very strong which is what I used to like now days April is my therapist she does just the right pressure for me.
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Thai massage originated in India and is based on ayurveda( incorporates yoga, meditation and herbal remedies) and yoga. The technique combines massage with yoga-like positions during the course of the massage; the northern style emphasizes stretching while the southern style emphasizes acupressure. Book an appointment at Mantra Wellness Centre to receive the most tranquil and soothing Thai massage in Calgary.
To prevent further sports pain or injury, it’s important to learn the proper techniques for lifting weights and performing certain cardio exercises. Taking frequent breaks and wearing the proper outfit and protective gear can also significantly help reduce future pain and inflammation. If you’re unsure about your form and technique, ask a personal trainer, coach, or trusted teammate for help. Find the best sports massage in Calgary at Mantra Wellness Centre.

Acupressure [from Latin acus "needle" (see acuity) + pressure (n.)[29]] is an alternative medicine technique similar in principle to acupuncture. It is based on the concept of life energy which flows through "meridians" in the body. In treatment, physical pressure is applied to acupuncture points with the aim of clearing blockages in those meridians. Pressure may be applied by fingers, palm, elbow, toes or with various devices.
This place is a bit sketchy.    Not sure if it is legit and the "therapist" don't listen to what the customer wants.  They are extremely unprofessional as well.  The therapist never introduce themselves to you at the beginning but after the massage is over and when you go to the counter to pay, the strange man that runs the place gives you a card with a name, and the name isn't the same as the person who massaged you.
Some studies are backing the benefits these massages claim to have. One study suggests that a traditional Thai massage could be used as a complementary therapy for autistic children in Thailand. Another study suggested that patients suffering from back pain associated with myofascial trigger points (the connective tissue that holds us together) should consider receiving Thai massages as an alternative primary health care treatment.

I've been looking for a good traditional Thai massage place in Oakland and haven't found one yet. I was randomly in Albany getting car repair and was surprised first at the huge number of massage places in 3 blocks. I checked the reviews on Yelp and folks were right this place is 100% legit. I've had a good number of Thai massages and this place was great and reasonable price. I'll for sure be back. And the idea of oil changes have gone from huge inconvenience to oh great the Thai massage is right next door.


A deep tissue massage is intended to alleviate pain and tension hidden deep within the muscle tissues. You can expect an intense therapy session. Please note that deep tissue massages are not intended to be a gentle and soothing experience, although they are meant to reduce pain. If you’re looking for a lighter, more soothing massage, we recommend a traditional relaxation massage.

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...It is very important to ALWAYS speak up and let your therapist know if you need the pressure to be corrected, (i.e. if you need them to lighten up because it is too deep, or to apply more because it is not deep enough). Most everyone needs more pressure in some areas and less in others. This occurs because muscle tissue that contains Trigger Points is more sensitive to pressure and can be tender to the touch.

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This ancient therapy is old, and we mean dating back some 2,500 years. Its origin is said to have come from India, during the time of the Buddha. The physician to the Buddha, Shivago Komarpaj, is said to have created the Thai massage. As Buddhism slowly started to make its way to Thailand, the massage technique came with it. Thai traditional massages were, and still are, used in conjunction with other traditional medicines. 

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Thailand culture is more than about music, painting and fine foods. It arises from a complex system of mutual respect and politeness that binds people together. Massage has a long tradition as a healing therapy and has been used by many different cultures for centuries to treat and relieve a wide range of disorders. Thai massage is based on thai medicine, an ancient holistic approach to healing the body-heart-mind-spirit. Thai medicine strives to treat the underlying cause of any illness by addressing imbalances in these three essences, not just the physical body. Massage is one of the easiest ways of attaining and maintaining good health and well being. It is healing instinct, innate of all of us, to rub an aching knee, or stroke a furrowed brow. Touch is so natural that without it people become depressed and irritable. Our sense of touch is registered by our skin, the largest and most sensitive organ. Throughout history people have used the power of touch from our hands to warmth, comfort and reassure. Massage has wonderful healing powers that even today's doctors largely support. Many of our customers are doctors

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I had heard so many positive things about this place from friends, but am not really into the walking on my back and popping my joints scene so I avoided it.  Fast forward to today my lower back was in so much pain I could barely move.  My normal massage guy was booked, so I relented.  BEST DECISION!!  Noy eased by back pain, and eliminated knots I didn't even know I had.  I will be going back here soon.  Noy was magic.
The massage started off rather mediocre, kind of like a first blind date where you don't expect much. We talked the whole time, and I was totally fine with that, and about 30 minutes in I thought - meh, nothing great. She started working towards my legs, but I had told her in the beginning that my shoulders were the culprit of my pain for over a month. Mid conversation I politely asked to refocus on my shoulders and THAT'S when the magic happened. She worked them bad boys like a scorned ex gf. I'm hurting today, but I feel so much better. Granted, not ALL my pain is gone, but I feel much more comfortable going through my day today.
I've been here 3 times, as a former professional massage therapist, I have to say that these people do things far beyond what I was capable of and it's AMAZING! I've recommended it to all of my friends. My massage therapist PAULA have amazing skill and technique and are perfect for anyone like me who's worried about a lack of pressure. Nelly is wonderful if you just want a nice relaxing massage after a hard day. My preference is for PAULA who work very deep into tissue and do a lot of full body stretches (it's Thai massage after all!)
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Gabi M: "Do you want to join me for a massage after dinner?" Me: "Of course!" (I'm not one to ever pass up a relaxing massage) Gabi: "It's a thai massage so I'm not sure you'll like it" Me: "A massage? What's not to like" Hours later I'm ready for my relaxing massage and a few minutes in I realize thai massages are NOT my usual relaxing massage. The masseuse is literally kneeling on my back getting every single knot (and I have a lot of them!) out while I say "ouch" about every 3 seconds. She continues to tell me "relax" throughout the massage and I continue to respond with "ouch." She then asks me if I want her to walk on my back..."umm no thank you!" An hour later I have every knot out of my body, but I wonder how anyone could stand more than 60 minutes of this torture. I paid my $90 + tip, enjoyed a small cup of decaffeinated tea and headed back to the hotel for a lovely night of kid free sleep. The next morning I woke up with such sore shoulders although after an hour of (additional) torture at Barry's Boot Camp felt really good. In fact, I may even make a trip to Siam Orchard a regular thing during my monthly trips to SF.
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The massage started off rather mediocre, kind of like a first blind date where you don't expect much. We talked the whole time, and I was totally fine with that, and about 30 minutes in I thought - meh, nothing great. She started working towards my legs, but I had told her in the beginning that my shoulders were the culprit of my pain for over a month. Mid conversation I politely asked to refocus on my shoulders and THAT'S when the magic happened. She worked them bad boys like a scorned ex gf. I'm hurting today, but I feel so much better. Granted, not ALL my pain is gone, but I feel much more comfortable going through my day today.

Massage is based on pressure points along ten key energy lines of the body, which power all physical, mental and emotional processes. If there is an energy imbalance, the body's harmony is disrupted, causing pain and disease. Massaging along these key energy lines can break energy blockage, stimulate the circulation and restore general well-being. In this form of massage, the recipient is fully-clothed, in a loose-fitting top and pants. Massage oil is not used.


Went here to celebrate my anniversary with the hubs and local or not still loved the view! They welcomed us in quickly and were courteous and polite. It was our first Thai Massage and they literally massaged us from head to toe (we did the couples massage). If you are a light weight go with the light massage, if you are a heavy weight go with the light massage lol. My hubby was so relaxed he started snoring smh. Afterwards the only thing you will want to do is sleep. Trust Me! Immediately afterwards they unexpectedly gave us ginger tea. Best ginger tea I have ever had and with a strong, repeat strong kick to it. It was so perfect after the massage. If you are a professional relaxer or if you need a DEEP massage to get out those kinks definitely check them out!

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This ancient therapy is old, and we mean dating back some 2,500 years. Its origin is said to have come from India, during the time of the Buddha. The physician to the Buddha, Shivago Komarpaj, is said to have created the Thai massage. As Buddhism slowly started to make its way to Thailand, the massage technique came with it. Thai traditional massages were, and still are, used in conjunction with other traditional medicines.
Came here on a Sunday for my first Thai massage ever! My therapist was Eva–it was quite enjoyable, not sure if it was “amazing” since it was my first one. I had the Thai-Swedish combo and I felt like they could have worked on my back more though. The ladies were very nice, and the ambience pretty relaxing, I would definitely come back for the price and location, and happy hours are weekdays $45 before 2:00 pm. Free street parking on Sunday, otherwise they have a lot in the back, but limited parking spots. Overall did the job and got the relaxation I was overdue for!

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I'm no newbie when it comes to receiving massage therapy. I periodically indulge myself to a 60-minute session when I travel for work (I'm way too busy at home to do this!) Having had scoliosis since a child and receiving chiropractic for almost 30 years, I find that a good massage therapist complements my chiropractic care. Of all the massage therapists I've seen for the past ten years, Thai Massage Therapy is head and shoulders above the rest! For the first time, I received help for my sciatic issues, as well as pressure point treatment, lymphatic massage, and helpful stretching. Quite painful at various points, my therapist nevertheless knew exactly how to focus on on the most problematic areas. It's the kind of discomfort I know is productive and healing - for greater flexibility, pressure point release, muscle relaxation, resulting in improved function of my joints and systems. Go see them! I can't highly recommend them enough!!!
To prevent further sports pain or injury, it’s important to learn the proper techniques for lifting weights and performing certain cardio exercises. Taking frequent breaks and wearing the proper outfit and protective gear can also significantly help reduce future pain and inflammation. If you’re unsure about your form and technique, ask a personal trainer, coach, or trusted teammate for help. Find the best sports massage in Calgary at Mantra Wellness Centre.
Massage is big business in Thailand. It is regulated by the Public Health Ministry. The Commerce and Tourism and Sports Ministries have set a target of 20 billion baht per year to be generated by the spa business, but only 500 of the 2,000 spas nationwide are legally registered with the authorities. The legal difference between a "spa" and a "massage parlour" is unclear. The Federation of Thai Spa Associations (FTSPA) in 2016 urged authorities to clamp down on sexual services being offered at some massage parlours. The FTSPA maintains that influential figures have used legal loopholes to open "pretty spas" or massage parlours where tourists can buy sexual services.[11]
Due to the great reviews, we decided to give this place a try. We were able to easily make an appointment via email with the company for the next day at the Asakusa Temple location. This location was a little tough to find, however, the pictures and description on the website did help some. Cell service wasn't great so we weren't able to look up the entrance specifics which certainly was a hassle! The place is up on the second floor behind the Mini Stop convenience store. We were immediately greeted by the staff with a jasmine scented cool wash cloth and cold ice water. After a cursory questionnaire and review of massage services, we were led to a Thai style massage mat. It is firmer and on the floor for the therapy. They have you change into a loose fit outfit before starting. We opted for the Leelavadee 150min combo. It was divine! Both the Thai massage and the essential oil deep tissue massage was great. Be forewarned that with the oil deep tissue, they are very liberal with the oil! It gets everywhere. Their massages are tailored to your particular concerns. The therapy ends with another jasmine scented wash cloth and ice cold water. We whole heartedly recommend this place. It is incredibly clean which is also a winning point. The ladies are strong and you will get a great massage! The prices are very reasonable! Don't hesitate! Make an appointment with them if you get the chance. We certainly will when we return to Tokyo.

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A dry-water massage table uses jets of water to perform the massage of the client's muscles. These tables differ from a Vichy shower in that the client usually stays dry. Two common types are one in which the client lies on a waterbed-like mattress which contains warm water and jets of water and air bubbles and one in which the client lies on a foam pad and is covered by a plastic sheet and is then sprayed by jets of warm water, similar to a Vichy shower.[76] The first type is sometimes seen available for use in malls and shopping centers for a small fee.
Structural Integration's aim is to unwind the strain patterns residing in the body's myofascial system, restoring it to its natural balance, alignment, length, and ease. This is accomplished by deep, slow, fascial and myofascial manipulation, coupled with movement re-education. Various brands of Structural Integration are Rolfing, Hellerwork, Guild for Structural Integration, Aston Patterning,[8] Soma,[60] and Kinesis Myofascial Integration.[61]

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This was just so weird. I got there and they were able to see me immediately. I let them know I am 9 months pregnant and they said no problem, they do prenatal massage. I get in and the therapist was HORRIBLE! She spent 40+ minutes rubbing the middle of my back. That's it. I told her my neck and shoulders and especially my feet hurt and she wouldn't move from the same spot. She finally said we were done and I was shocked! She never rubbed my hands, lower back, neck, or my feet! I mean come on, who doesn't rub a pregnant persons feet? I even checked at the end to see if my feet were gross or something but no, took a shower right before I got there. It was just so strange, I ended up coming home in tears and rubbing myself which would have cost less than the $75 I paid them for absolutely nothing.

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During the 1930s and 1940s massage's influence decreased as a result of medical advancements of the time, while in the 1970s massage's influence grew once again with a notable rise among athletes.[10] Until the 1970s, nurses used massage to reduce pain and aid sleep.[21] The massage therapy industry is continuously increasing. In 2009, U.S. consumers spent between $4 and $6 billion on visits to massage therapists.[22] In 2015, research estimates that massage therapy was a $12.1 billion industry.[23]
I arrived early and was told that I should come back in ~30 minutes. Since the temperature was cold outside, I asked if I could stay inside and there wasn't an issue. I was told that I could lay on the bed while I waited but I decided I would just sit there. I used the Yelp app on my phone to check in and there was a discount. I spoke with the person behind the counter about the discount and I was informed that because I wanted a 90 minute massage and the 90 minute massage was already discounted, it would not apply. When the person was ready I was escorted to the room. Inside the room there were 2 massage beds. I was asked how long I wanted and I mentioned that I wanted 90 minutes. I was then asked to undress and go underneath the towel.
I woke up with the worst neck pain and after dealing with it all day I called up Thai Spa Massage 2 and made an appointment for the same day. My Mom and sister went about a month before and loved it so I took my Dad and we headed over. For two 90 minute massages it was only $200 and we each had very spacious private rooms. They even have punch cards that you can use towards a free massage.
If you are looking for a massage centre in Barcelona where you can isolate from noise and stress, Thai Spa Massage is the best option. Probably the best place to enjoy a Thai massage, since not only the therapists are specialized in centuries-old treatments and proven effectiveness, but the environment is cared for down to the last detail so that you can move mentally to the heart of Asia.
Thai massage has been practiced in America since the 1990s when Westerners began practicing it. Thai massage is more commonly found than it used to be at American spas, but you can't find it everywhere for two reasons. First, the spa needs a room with a large, padded mat in order to offer Thai massage. It's easiest if the room is always set up for Thai massage, and yet it is more of a specialty request. It just makes more economic sense to have the room set up with a table for a Swedish massage.
Massage is hindered from reaching the gold standard of scientific research, which includes placebo-controlled and double blind clinical trials.[85][86] Developing a "sham" manual therapy for massage would be difficult since even light touch massage could not be assumed to be completely devoid of effects on the subject.[85] It would also be difficult to find a subject that would not notice that they were getting less of a massage, and it would be impossible to blind the therapist.[85] Massage can employ randomized controlled trials, which are published in peer reviewed medical journals.[85] This type of study could increase the credibility of the profession because it displays that purported therapeutic effects are reproducible.[86]

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Came here yesterday with my bachelorette party (8) ladies including myself for a massage after a day of hiking. Spoke with the owner a month before to reserve a time. The owner was very nice and accommodating and was able to fit us all in at the same time. I have to tell you my massage was the best in Hawaii. I left feeling very relax and refreshed.  The owner was very nice and friendly, I am definitely coming back here when I'm back in Hawaii. Thank you for such an amazing massage.
To prevent further sports pain or injury, it’s important to learn the proper techniques for lifting weights and performing certain cardio exercises. Taking frequent breaks and wearing the proper outfit and protective gear can also significantly help reduce future pain and inflammation. If you’re unsure about your form and technique, ask a personal trainer, coach, or trusted teammate for help. Find the best sports massage in Calgary at Mantra Wellness Centre.
I've been here 3 times, as a former professional massage therapist, I have to say that these people do things far beyond what I was capable of and it's AMAZING! I've recommended it to all of my friends. My massage therapist PAULA have amazing skill and technique and are perfect for anyone like me who's worried about a lack of pressure. Nelly is wonderful if you just want a nice relaxing massage after a hard day. My preference is for PAULA who work very deep into tissue and do a lot of full body stretches (it's Thai massage after all!) This is better than anything you'd get at MassageEnvy. Spas around the Houston area which provide quality Thai Massage are incredibly rare.
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Awesome massage! I was in need of a little R&R and the Thai massage really got the spot. I love that Thai massages use no oil (so you don’t crisco your clothes after) and that there is a ton of stretching involved. It’s like doing yoga but better because they do all the work for you! Prices are very affordable. It’s a great place to come with a few friends and then have lunch next door!
1. Build strength and endurance. A Vietnamese massage is known for being powerful and initially tough on the skin and body. The benefits for your partner come after the session is done. As the masseuse, your entire body needs to be fully ready for the challenge before you even think about giving this type of massage. Lift weights and include cardiovascular activity in your routine so that your massages will be strong and will be able to last the full 60 minutes of a typical Vietnamese massage session.
Because of its emphasis on body work, joint release, and deep breathing, Thai massage is often considered comparable to yoga. Modern yoga practice often includes traditional elements intrinsic in Eastern religion, including spiritual philosophy, postures designed to keep the body fit, and varying facets of meditation. These elements are sometimes adapted to meet the needs of non-religious practitioners, who may be attracted to yoga by its utility as a relaxation technique or as a way to keep in good shape.
I did not like having to wait for 10 minutes after my appointment to check out. There was a customer that came in 10 minutes before me and was checking out when I came out of my service and she was allowed to monopolize the front desk for 10 more minutes. I realize that with multiple services that there will be multiple clients leaving at the same time. Get more help, more computers or come up with a different way to check out your clients. Your front desk girls are very courteous and my massage was very relaxing which was my goal. The customer was a buzz kill and I didn't like listening to her smack her gum and give the girls the run around with making a new appointment. I know you can't help how your customers behave, but the front desk girls may need some training on how to deal with difficult customers.
Ergonomic chairs serve a similar function as a massage table. Chairs may be either stationary or portable models. Massage chairs are easier to transport than massage tables, and recipients do not need to disrobe to receive a chair massage. Due to these two factors, chair massage is often performed in settings such as corporate offices, outdoor festivals, shopping malls, and other public locations.
The cost of a Thai massage will really depend on where it is you go. You can get an amazing, one-hour Thai massage for ฿200 (about $6), but the salon itself might be less than luxurious. You can opt for one of the more expensive options, with the same massage, for upwards of ฿500 (about $15). While tipping is not necessarily a custom here in Thailand, we do recommend you tip your masseuse. The massages are incredibly cheap, and these people’s jobs are simply exhausting.
As she continued to take courses and practice, though, Thai massage began to work on her. Rosler had an eye-opening moment as she was practicing a common Thai massage stretch. Squatting on her toes behind her seated client, Rosler placed her knees into the client’s back.With her hands on the client’s shoulders, she pulled the client backward over her knees, similar to a passive cobra stretch in yoga. Rosler realized, to her surprise, that she was securely in a squat position, without knee pain.
A 2004 systematic review found single applications of massage therapy "reduced state anxiety, blood pressure, and heart rate but not negative mood, immediate assessment of pain, and cortisol level", while "multiple applications reduced delayed assessment of pain", and found improvements in anxiety and depression similar to effects of psychotherapy.[54] A subsequent systematic review published in 2008 found that there is little evidence supporting the use of massage therapy for depression in high quality studies from randomized controlled trials.[55]

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Massage used in the medical field includes decongestive therapy used for lymphedema[10] which can be used in conjunction with the treatment of breast cancer. Light massage is also used in pain management and palliative care. Carotid sinus massage is used to diagnose carotid sinus syncope and is sometimes useful for differentiating supraventricular tachycardia (SVT) from ventricular tachycardia. It, like the valsalva maneuver, is a therapy for SVT.[52] However, it is less effective than management of SVT with medications.[53]
2. Generate force. When you’re putting pressure on a certain area of the body, use momentum and the full weight of your whole body to apply as much force as possible. Take advantage of gravity to hit your partner’s body with plenty of energy. Dig in by positioning your body over your arm so that your weight transfers to that specific spot. Give a hard rub to finish off the movement, and then prepare for the next area of her body.
I woke up with the worst neck pain and after dealing with it all day I called up Thai Spa Massage 2 and made an appointment for the same day. My Mom and sister went about a month before and loved it so I took my Dad and we headed over. For two 90 minute massages it was only $200 and we each had very spacious private rooms. They even have punch cards that you can use towards a free massage. The guy I had (I can't remember his name ) asked if I had any pain, I mentioned my neck and he worked on it for at least an hour while still working on the rest of my body. Just by feeling my neck he knew how tight it was and he really worked out the knots. By the end of the massage I was able to move my neck to the side without as much pain! I will definitely be back.
I love going to Traditions Massage and Facial Spa. Although I live in Tennessee my friend and I try to go when i'm in town. They have been so accommodating fitting us in their schedule due to fact I never know when i'm coming in town. Everyone goes out of their way to make you feel special and very RELAXED!! I highly recommend them!!! Sidney did an amazing job with my facial, as did Maggie with my massage. I did't want it to end!!
I have been going to Metta Traditional Thai Massage for the past six months. I should have written a… I have been going to Metta Traditional Thai Massage for the past six months. I should have written a review sooner but I have to admit -- I would like to keep the place a secret for myself and the others who regularly go there. I started with a 90 minute session every other week and quickly increased to a 90 minute session weekly. For every session but one, I have seen Yupa. She is incredible! Besides being a sweet, generous and giving human being, Yupa has excellent massage skills. She is very intuitive about what areas require attention but nevertheless always asks before starting whether there are any changes since our last session or areas I want more work. I have formal training as a massage therapist so I am quite particular about who I see. I highly recommend Yupa (just don't book my session times- LOL). I can also recommend Supinya who covered for one session when Yupa was out of town.
One of the most remarkable healing techniques on the planet. Works with the pulses of the energy pathways known as meridians in Chinese medicine. The term tui na (pronounced "twee naw"), which literally means "pinch and pull," refers to a wide range of Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) therapeutic massage and body work. People in the West may refer to Chinese massage as tui na.
As if all this were not enough, since you enter the Spa your well-being is our responsibility, and that's why we work for you feel to totally comfortable and leave out your daily worries and the stress of routine. Our masseuses are specialists in making you forget your problems, and for this reason we even provide you with the most suitable clothes for treatment. This is the only way to maximise the benefits of Thai massage.

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    So if you read my previous reviews, you will see that I use to only see Summer....she answers the phone so its easy to ask her direct for an appt with her.....A month ago, Summer was gone for 2 weeks for Chinese New Year. Lily was still there so I ended up seeing her twice...and enjoyed it. When Summer got back, and to this day, I have yet to see her again for an appt. It almost seems like shes avoiding me....which might be okay, except after I had what can only be described as the WORST appt I have had...by far....given by Lily.
In the end, I didn't feel any more relaxed than I did when I stepped in for our appointment. I seriously paid nearly $100 per person for this??? I've felt wayyy more blissed out after rigorous sessions of cardio and weight lifting and strength training at the gym than here. I don't think I'll be coming back, unfortunately. But I'm sure they don't need my business, they have plenty of other 5 star reviews from other reviewers here.

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